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1 -=== General info ===
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4 4  
5 -* [[ADQ412 server description~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/FLASHWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=SPdevicesDMA%20ADQ||shape="rect"]]
6 -* [[more ADC server descriptions~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/DOOCSWiki/Wiki.jsp#section-C_2B_2B+Server+Interface-D_ADCscope?page=C%2B%2B%20Server%20Interface||shape="rect"]]
7 -* [[Description of the DAQ properties related to the ADCs~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/DOOCSWiki/Wiki.jsp#section-C_2B_2B+Server+Interface-DaqfedConfiguration.?page=C%2B%2B%20Server%20Interface||shape="rect"]]
8 -* [[a collection of usefull things related to the OPIS ADCs>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/bin/view/Setup/OpisAdcCollection||shape="rect" class="twikiLink"]]
9 9  
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5 +{{toc minLevel="2"/}}
11 11  
12 -=== Our cards ===
7 +----
13 13  
14 -\\
9 += Our ADC cards =
15 15  
16 -==== SP-Devices ADQ412AC ====
11 +== GHz ADCs: SP-Devices ADQ412AC ==
17 17  
18 -We have ADQ412AC-4G-MTCA digitizer cards for the experiment crates (Exp1, Exp2 and FL2Exp1):
19 -[[ADQ412_datasheet.pdf>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/10-0494_C_ADQ412_datasheet.pdf||shape="rect"]] ( [[new version>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/10-0494-adq412_datasheet.pdf||shape="rect"]], [[sampling rates table>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Clocking_AppNote.pdf||shape="rect"]])
20 -The cards are connected via Patch panels to the Experimental endstations.
13 +We have ADQ412AC-4G-MTCA digitizer cards for the experiment crates (Exp1, Exp2 and FL2Exp1):
14 +[[ADQ412_datasheet.pdf>>attach:10-0494_C_ADQ412_datasheet.pdf]] ( [[new version>>attach:10-0494-adq412_datasheet.pdf]], [[sampling rates table>>attach:Clocking_AppNote.pdf]])
15 +The cards are connected via Patch panels to the Experimental endstations and can be operated with a jddd panel:
21 21  
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17 +[[image:attach:image2019-10-21_15-21-23.png||width="800"]]
23 23  
24 -* **NOTE: between ADC and Patch panel we have installed an [[EMP protector>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/EMP_protector.pdf||shape="rect"]] and an additional 1dB attenuator**
25 -* for the influence of the Patch cable and the EMP protector see also [[this logbook entry~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:http://ttfinfo.desy.de/ExpHallelog/show.jsp?dir=/2016/27/08.07&pos=2016-07-08T17:41:07||shape="rect"]]
26 -* we can offer amplifiers to either amplify small signals or to decouple setups which may deliver voltage peaks fro the ADCs. The available ADCs are:
27 -** 20 dB, 1 GHz, 50 Ohm, ( [[Minicircuits ZFL-1000LN+>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/ZFL-1000LN.pdf||shape="rect"]])
28 -** 10 dB, 1.8 GHz, 50 Ohm, ( [[Becker und Hickl, ACA-1-10-I>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/ACA-amilifier.pdf||shape="rect"]])
29 29  
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31 31  
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21 +* **NOTE: between ADC and Patch panel we have installed an [[EMP protector>>attach:EMP_protector.pdf]] and an additional 1dB attenuator**
22 +* for the influence of the Patch cable and the EMP protector see also [[this logbook entry>>url:http://ttfinfo.desy.de/ExpHallelog/show.jsp?dir=/2016/27/08.07&pos=2016-07-08T17:41:07||shape="rect"]]
33 33  
34 -* [[Here is a detailed evaluation >>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Output_behaviour_of_Mini-Circuits_Amplifier.pdf||shape="rect"]]of the 2 amplifiers , their linearity and influence on the signal broadening for different input signals*
35 -* And the test of the [[Philips scientific Model 6954>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf||shape="rect"]]
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40 -
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41 41  |(((
42 42  Impedance AC
43 43  )))|(((
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46 46  |(((
47 47  Input voltage range
48 48  )))|=(((
49 -800 mV pp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
33 +the complete range is about 1V  for 4096 counts.
34 +
35 +Thus +- 0.5 V for baseline at 0V
36 +
37 +BUT the baseline can also be shifted ...
50 50  )))
51 51  |(((
52 52  Digitizer resolution
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56 56  
57 57  4 CHANNELS MODE
58 58  
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59 59  |(((
60 60  Sampling rate
61 61  )))|(((
62 -2
51 +2 *
63 63  )))|(((
64 64  GSPS
65 65  )))
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73 73  
74 74  2 CHANNELS MODE
75 75  
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76 76  |(((
77 77  Sampling rate
78 78  )))|(((
79 -4
69 +4 *
80 80  )))|(((
81 81  GSPS
82 82  )))
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88 88  GHz
89 89  )))
90 90  
91 -\\
81 + ~* note that the sample rate is NOT locked to the FLASH repetition rate ! Thus there is a not integer number of samples between FLASH pulses. The sample rate also differs slightly from ADC card  to ADC card. The rough spacing is **1993.846** samples between 2 pulses at 1 MHz for details ask the local contact.
92 92  
83 +
93 93  ===== ADC and DOOCS / DAQ =====
94 94  
95 95  The HDF5 names for the ADC traces are depending on the beamline :
96 -\\PG Beamline:
97 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
98 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
99 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
87 +\\PG Beamline:
88 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
89 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
90 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
100 100  {{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
101 101  
102 -BL Beamlines:
103 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
104 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
105 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
106 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
107 -\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
108 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
109 -\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
93 +BL Beamlines:
94 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
95 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
96 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
97 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
98 +\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
99 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
100 +\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
110 110  {{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
111 111  
112 -DOOCS prop : {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00/CH00.TD  or CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}}
113 -here the {{code language="none"}}CH00.TD{{/code}} is the full ADC trace as it is sampled ( typically several 100.000 samples per pulse train) while the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} trace only has the number of samples which are sent to the DAQ OR if //grouping// is actvated the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} contins only the grouped spectra. To read the ADC trace with an online analysis program the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} is preferable to use ...
103 +and at FLASH2
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109 +\\{{code language="none"}}FL24:/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
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112 +DOOCS prop : {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00/CH00.TD  or CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}}
113 +here the {{code language="none"}}CH00.TD{{/code}} is the full ADC trace as it is sampled ( typically several 100.000 samples per pulse train) while the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} trace only has the number of samples which are sent to the DAQ OR if //grouping// is activated the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} contains only the grouped spectra. To read the ADC trace with an online analysis program the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} is preferable to use ...
114 114  DAQ channel: {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00{{/code}}
115 115  
116 116  in addition there are also additional parameters saved like:
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119 119  * error (state)
120 120  * offset
121 121  
122 -\\
122 +== Amplifiers for the GHZ ADCs ==
123 123  
124 -==== Struck SIS8300-L2D ====
124 +* **we can offer [[ Phillips scientific Model 6954>>attach:6954ds.pdf]] amplifiers** to either amplify small signals or to decouple setups which may deliver voltage peaks fro the ADCs.
125 +* The available ADCs 5x, 10x, 20 x 50x and 100x
126 +* The ADCs can be borrowed from Markus Braune
127 +* The Amplifiers fit perfectly to the dynamic range of the GHz ADCs - here a  [[ test of the Phillips scientific amplifier>>attach:Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf]]
128 +* There are also [[BiasTs>>attach:ZX85-12G-S+.pdf]] available that can be borrowed  ([[link to internal page>>doc:FLASH.Bias T]])[[image:url:https://confluence.desy.de/download/attachments/177857419/20210414_161820.jpg?version=5&modificationDate=1618412745169&api=v2||alt="20210414_161820.jpg" thumbnail="true" height="250" width="333"]]
125 125  
130 +== 108 MHz ADCs:  Struck SIS8300-L2D ==
131 +
126 126  There is one in each of the MTCAs in the hall: MTCA-EXP1 at PG/BL1, the other at BL2 and BL3.
127 127  
128 -They are 16 bit, 10 channel, 125 MS/s ADCs.
134 +They are 16 bit, 10 channel, 125 MS/s ADCs.  Here is a link to the [[Struck website>>url:https://www.struck.de/sis8900.html||shape="rect"]]
129 129  
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131 131  
132 -* [[User Manual SIS8300-L2 ADC ACM>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/sis8300l2-m-x009-1-v101.pdf||shape="rect"]]
133 -* [[User Manual SIS8900 RTM>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/sis8900-m-1-1-v104.pdf||shape="rect"]]
134 -
135 135  50 Ohm input impedance, -1 V,...,+1 V default input range, analog signals can be routed to AC and DC input stage. The coupling is DC via op-amp (switching to AC transformer involves resoldering of SMD solder bridges).
136 136  
137 137  Here is a trace of the first signal, a 1 MHz trigger connected from the x2timer board in the same MTCA:
138 138  
139 -[[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/adc_mhz.jpg||alt="adc_mhz.jpg" width="550" height="500"]]
141 +[[image:attach:adc_mhz.jpg||height="400"]]
140 140  
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142 142  
143 -==== Using the Struck SIS8300-L2D to detect only integrated values of pulses ====
144 +== Pulse energy server: Using the Struck SIS8300-L2D to detect only integrated values of pulses ==
144 144  
145 -FS-LA (Falko Peters) programmed a pulse detection server that automatically detects peaks in the signel and integrates the samples around the peak. <\br> things to set:
146 +FS-LA (Falko Peters) programmed a pulse detection server that automatically detects peaks in the signal and integrates the samples around the peak.
146 146  
147 -* Peak height: from what signal on (incounts) is the signal to be counted as peak
148 +Things to set:
149 +
150 +* Min peak height: threshold fro which on some signal is considered to be a peak. The actual peak is then determined as the maximum of the counts after the threshold
148 148  * pre and post peak integration time: how much ns to be integrated before and after the peak sample that are taken into account for the peak
149 149  * pre and post peak noise time: before and after the samples that are taken for the actual signal these samples are used as background ( they also can be used to define the "deadtime" of the detector before it searches for new peaks.
150 150  
151 -[[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/pulse_energy_server.jpg||alt="pulse_energy_server.jpg" width="400" height="300"]]
152 152  
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155 +[[image:attach:pulse_energy_server.jpg||height="400"]] [[image:attach:image2019-11-18_17-9-7.png||height="400"]]
154 154  
155 -* [[Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf||shape="rect"]]: Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf
157 +
158 + jddd  server panel  Definition of the parameters
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162 +
163 +== Detailed expert stuff ==
164 +
165 +* [[ a collection of usefull things related to the OPIS ADCs>>doc:FLASH.Photon Diagnostics.OPIS.OPIS ADC related things.WebHome]]
166 +* a list of [[our MTCA ADC cards>>doc:FLASH.Controls, Data recording & Analysis.IT Docu (expert stuff).Hardware (Computers, MTCA & motorcontrol).our MTCA ADC cards.WebHome]] (only internal link)
167 +* load tests: [[link to Logbook entry>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/Flash2_FL26elog/show.jsp?dir=/2023/23&pos=2023-06-08T16:11:08||shape="rect"]]  for the "mobile GHz ADC" we can save 12 ADCs with 1.8 Gsample  for  333 µm / 600 ksamples  without losses -  but it produces looooots of data ..
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