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1 -=== General info ===
1 +Content:
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3 -\\
4 4  
5 -* [[ADQ412 server description~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/FLASHWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=SPdevicesDMA%20ADQ||shape="rect"]]
6 -* [[more ADC server descriptions~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/DOOCSWiki/Wiki.jsp#section-C_2B_2B+Server+Interface-D_ADCscope?page=C%2B%2B%20Server%20Interface||shape="rect"]]
7 -* [[Description of the DAQ properties related to the ADCs~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/DOOCSWiki/Wiki.jsp#section-C_2B_2B+Server+Interface-DaqfedConfiguration.?page=C%2B%2B%20Server%20Interface||shape="rect"]]
8 -* [[ a collection of usefull things related to the OPIS ADCs>>doc:FLASHUSER.OPIS ADC related things]]
9 9  
10 -\\
5 +{{toc minLevel="2"/}}
11 11  
12 -=== Our cards ===
7 +----
13 13  
14 -\\
9 += Our ADC cards =
15 15  
16 -==== SP-Devices ADQ412AC ====
11 +== GHz ADCs: SP-Devices ADQ412AC ==
17 17  
18 -We have ADQ412AC-4G-MTCA digitizer cards for the experiment crates (Exp1, Exp2 and FL2Exp1):
19 -[[ADQ412_datasheet.pdf>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/10-0494_C_ADQ412_datasheet.pdf||shape="rect"]] ( [[new version>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/10-0494-adq412_datasheet.pdf||shape="rect"]], [[sampling rates table>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Clocking_AppNote.pdf||shape="rect"]])
20 -The cards are connected via Patch panels to the Experimental endstations.
13 +We have ADQ412AC-4G-MTCA digitizer cards for the experiment crates (Exp1, Exp2 and FL2Exp1):
14 +[[ADQ412_datasheet.pdf>>attach:10-0494_C_ADQ412_datasheet.pdf]] ( [[new version>>attach:10-0494-adq412_datasheet.pdf]], [[sampling rates table>>attach:Clocking_AppNote.pdf]])
15 +The cards are connected via Patch panels to the Experimental endstations and can be operated with a jddd panel:
21 21  
22 -\\
17 +[[image:attach:image2019-10-21_15-21-23.png||width="800"]]
23 23  
24 -* **NOTE: between ADC and Patch panel we have installed an [[EMP protector>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/EMP_protector.pdf||shape="rect"]] and an additional 1dB attenuator**
25 -* for the influence of the Patch cable and the EMP protector see also [[this logbook entry~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|width="13" height="12"~]~]>>url:http://ttfinfo.desy.de/ExpHallelog/show.jsp?dir=/2016/27/08.07&pos=2016-07-08T17:41:07||shape="rect"]]
26 -* we can offer amplifiers to either amplify small signals or to decouple setups which may deliver voltage peaks fro the ADCs. The available ADCs are:
27 -** 20 dB, 1 GHz, 50 Ohm, ( [[Minicircuits ZFL-1000LN+>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/ZFL-1000LN.pdf||shape="rect"]])
28 -** 10 dB, 1.8 GHz, 50 Ohm, ( [[Becker und Hickl, ACA-1-10-I>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/ACA-amilifier.pdf||shape="rect"]])
29 29  
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31 31  
32 -\\
21 +* **NOTE: between ADC and Patch panel we have installed an [[EMP protector>>attach:EMP_protector.pdf]] and an additional 1dB attenuator**
22 +* for the influence of the Patch cable and the EMP protector see also [[this logbook entry~[~[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/TWiki/TWikiDocGraphics/external-link.gif~|~|height="12" width="13"~]~]>>url:http://ttfinfo.desy.de/ExpHallelog/show.jsp?dir=/2016/27/08.07&pos=2016-07-08T17:41:07||shape="rect"]]
33 33  
34 -* [[Here is a detailed evaluation >>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Output_behaviour_of_Mini-Circuits_Amplifier.pdf||shape="rect"]]of the 2 amplifiers , their linearity and influence on the signal broadening for different input signals*
35 -* And the test of the [[Philips scientific Model 6954>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf||shape="rect"]]
36 36  
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40 -
41 41  (% class="wrapped" %)
42 42  |(((
43 43  Impedance AC
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47 47  |(((
48 48  Input voltage range
49 49  )))|=(((
50 -800 mV pp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
34 +the complete range is about 1V  for 4096 counts.
35 +
36 +Thus +- 0.5 V for baseline at 0V
37 +
38 +BUT the baseline can also be shifted ...
51 51  )))
52 52  |(((
53 53  Digitizer resolution
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61 61  |(((
62 62  Sampling rate
63 63  )))|(((
64 -2
52 +2 *
65 65  )))|(((
66 66  GSPS
67 67  )))
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79 79  |(((
80 80  Sampling rate
81 81  )))|(((
82 -4
70 +4 *
83 83  )))|(((
84 84  GSPS
85 85  )))
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91 91  GHz
92 92  )))
93 93  
94 -\\
82 + ~* note that the sample rate is NOT locked to the FLASH repetition rate ! Thus there is a not integer number of samples between FLASH pulses. The sample rate also differs slightly from ADC card  to ADC card. The rough spacing is **1993.846** samples between 2 pulses at 1 MHz for details ask the local contact.
95 95  
84 +
96 96  ===== ADC and DOOCS / DAQ =====
97 97  
98 98  The HDF5 names for the ADC traces are depending on the beamline :
99 -\\PG Beamline:
100 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
101 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
102 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
88 +\\PG Beamline:
89 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
90 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
91 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
103 103  {{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/PG/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
104 104  
105 -BL Beamlines:
106 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
107 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
108 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
109 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
110 -\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
111 -{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
112 -\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
94 +BL Beamlines:
95 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
96 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
97 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
98 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
99 +\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD{{/code}}
100 +{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL2/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD{{/code}}
101 +\\{{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD{{/code}}
113 113  {{code language="none"}}/FL1/Experiment/BL3/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
114 114  
115 -DOOCS prop : {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00/CH00.TD  or CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}}
116 -here the {{code language="none"}}CH00.TD{{/code}} is the full ADC trace as it is sampled ( typically several 100.000 samples per pulse train) while the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} trace only has the number of samples which are sent to the DAQ OR if //grouping// is actvated the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} contins only the grouped spectra. To read the ADC trace with an online analysis program the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} is preferable to use ...
104 +and at FLASH2
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107 +
108 +\\\\\\{{code language="none"}}FL24:/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH00/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH01/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH02/TD/FL2/Experiment/MTCA-EXP1/ADQ412 GHz ADC/CH03/TD{{/code}}
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110 +
111 +DOOCS prop : {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00/CH00.TD  or CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}}
112 +here the {{code language="none"}}CH00.TD{{/code}} is the full ADC trace as it is sampled ( typically several 100.000 samples per pulse train) while the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} trace only has the number of samples which are sent to the DAQ OR if //grouping// is activated the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} contains only the grouped spectra. To read the ADC trace with an online analysis program the {{code language="none"}}CH00.DAQ.TD{{/code}} is preferable to use ...
117 117  DAQ channel: {{code language="none"}}FLASH.FEL/ADC.ADQ.PG/EXP1.CH00{{/code}}
118 118  
119 119  in addition there are also additional parameters saved like:
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122 122  * error (state)
123 123  * offset
124 124  
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126 126  
127 -==== Struck SIS8300-L2D ====
122 +== Amplifiers for the GHZ ADCs ==
128 128  
129 -There is one in each of the MTCAs in the hall: MTCA-EXP1 at PG/BL1, the other at BL2 and BL3.
124 +* **we can offer [[ Phillips scientific Model 6954>>attach:6954ds.pdf]] amplifiers** to either amplify small signals or to decouple setups which may deliver voltage peaks fro the ADCs.
125 +* The available ADCs 5x, 10x, 20 x 50x and 100x
126 +* The ADCs can be borrowed from Markus Braune
127 +* The Amplifiers fit perfectly to the dynamic range of the GHz ADCs - here a  [[ test of the Phillips scientific amplifier>>attach:Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf]]
128 +* There are also [[BiasTs>>attach:ZX85-12G-S+.pdf]] available that can be borrowed  ([[link to internal page>>doc:FLASH.Bias T]])[[image:url:https://confluence.desy.de/download/attachments/177857419/20210414_161820.jpg?version=5&modificationDate=1618412745169&api=v2||alt="20210414_161820.jpg" thumbnail="true" height="250" width="333"]]
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131 -They are 16 bit, 10 channel, 125 MS/s ADCs.
132 132  
133 -\\
131 +== 108 MHz ADCs:  Struck SIS8300-L2D ==
134 134  
135 -* [[User Manual SIS8300-L2 ADC ACM>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/sis8300l2-m-x009-1-v101.pdf||shape="rect"]]
136 -* [[User Manual SIS8900 RTM>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/sis8900-m-1-1-v104.pdf||shape="rect"]]
133 +There is one in each of the MTCAs in the hall: MTCA-EXP1 at PG/BL1, the other at BL2 and BL3.
137 137  
135 +They are 16 bit, 10 channel, 125 MS/s ADCs.  Here is a link to the [[Struck website>>url:https://www.struck.de/sis8900.html||shape="rect"]]
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137 +
138 138  50 Ohm input impedance, -1 V,...,+1 V default input range, analog signals can be routed to AC and DC input stage. The coupling is DC via op-amp (switching to AC transformer involves resoldering of SMD solder bridges).
139 139  
140 140  Here is a trace of the first signal, a 1 MHz trigger connected from the x2timer board in the same MTCA:
141 141  
142 -[[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/adc_mhz.jpg||alt="adc_mhz.jpg" width="550" height="500"]]
142 +[[image:attach:adc_mhz.jpg||height="400"]]
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145 145  
146 -==== Using the Struck SIS8300-L2D to detect only integrated values of pulses ====
145 +== Pulse energy server: Using the Struck SIS8300-L2D to detect only integrated values of pulses ==
147 147  
148 -FS-LA (Falko Peters) programmed a pulse detection server that automatically detects peaks in the signel and integrates the samples around the peak. <\br> things to set:
147 +FS-LA (Falko Peters) programmed a pulse detection server that automatically detects peaks in the signal and integrates the samples around the peak.
149 149  
150 -* Peak height: from what signal on (incounts) is the signal to be counted as peak
149 +Things to set:
150 +
151 +* Min peak height: threshold fro which on some signal is considered to be a peak. The actual peak is then determined as the maximum of the counts after the threshold
151 151  * pre and post peak integration time: how much ns to be integrated before and after the peak sample that are taken into account for the peak
152 152  * pre and post peak noise time: before and after the samples that are taken for the actual signal these samples are used as background ( they also can be used to define the "deadtime" of the detector before it searches for new peaks.
153 153  
154 -[[image:url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/pulse_energy_server.jpg||alt="pulse_energy_server.jpg" width="400" height="300"]]
155 155  
156 -\\
157 157  
158 -* [[Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf>>url:http://hasfweb.desy.de/pub/Setup/MtcaAdc/Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf||shape="rect"]]: Model_6954_Amplifier_Report.pdf
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158 +[[image:attach:pulse_energy_server.jpg||height="400"]] [[image:attach:image2019-11-18_17-9-7.png||height="400"]]
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160 +
161 + jddd  server panel  Definition of the parameters
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165 +
166 +== Detailed expert stuff ==
167 +
168 +* [[ a collection of usefull things related to the OPIS ADCs>>doc:FLASH.OPIS ADC related things]]
169 +* a list of [[doc:FLASH.our MTCA ADC cards]] (only internal link)
170 +* load tests: [[link to Logbook entry>>url:https://ttfinfo.desy.de/Flash2_FL26elog/show.jsp?dir=/2023/23&pos=2023-06-08T16:11:08||shape="rect"]]  for the "mobile GHz ADC" we can save 12 ADCs with 1.8 Gsample  for  333 µm / 600 ksamples  without losses -  but it produces looooots of data ..
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